Comments on: Representing Detainees at Guantanamo Bay (Part 1 of 2) http://northandclark.net/2009/10/defending-the-detainees-at-guantanamo-bay/ Interviews, Chicago, and Whatever else We Want Sun, 05 Sep 2010 07:19:14 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Casey http://northandclark.net/2009/10/defending-the-detainees-at-guantanamo-bay/comment-page-1/#comment-504 Casey Mon, 09 Nov 2009 22:06:53 +0000 http://northandclark.net/?p=873#comment-504 Charles, as always, thank you for your considered and thorough response. Though I think we are destined to see this different ways, I value your opinion. I think the closest we come to a place of overlap would be Jeff's statement that the war on Terror is a very difficult one to fight and your concession that the process of identifying terrorist must be "refined." Thanks for having being open minded enough to listen to someone you know you will disagree with. Till next time - Casey Charles, as always, thank you for your considered and thorough response. Though I think we are destined to see this different ways, I value your opinion. I think the closest we come to a place of overlap would be Jeff’s statement that the war on Terror is a very difficult one to fight and your concession that the process of identifying terrorist must be “refined.” Thanks for having being open minded enough to listen to someone you know you will disagree with.

Till next time – Casey

]]> By: CharlesHo http://northandclark.net/2009/10/defending-the-detainees-at-guantanamo-bay/comment-page-1/#comment-360 CharlesHo Fri, 06 Nov 2009 02:54:40 +0000 http://northandclark.net/?p=873#comment-360 I don't really understand why Mr. Colman has to start off with fanciful conjecture such as "and we don't even know how many other prisoners they have there that aren't recorded" when he has no actual data to support anything like this. If what's going on there is truly so bad, why leap, at the very beginning, to make-believe? Also, he goes on to display his contempt for folks like the military commanders at Guantanamo, folks who later even conclude his clients should not be there and should be released. So, the Bush administration has released 3/4 of the people that were there after concluding that they weren't, in fact, a danger. Military commanders on a case-by-case basis seem to be acknowledging correctly when innocent folks have been found to be innocent. How exactly is it that there's no due process for these folks? It doesn't make sense to me. There seem to be plenty of room for refining the process, but what's Mr. Colman's alternative? Do we treat terrorist the same way we do serial killers in the U.S.? Make a system so unbalanced in the favor of criminals that it becomes impossible to get those that are terrorists and let them continue killing scores of people? How exactly are U.S. troops supposed to gather "evidence" in a battlefield setting for suspected terrorists? Pakistan and Afghanistan were battlefields, not playgrounds. I don’t really understand why Mr. Colman has to start off with fanciful conjecture such as “and we don’t even know how many other prisoners they have there that aren’t recorded” when he has no actual data to support anything like this. If what’s going on there is truly so bad, why leap, at the very beginning, to make-believe? Also, he goes on to display his contempt for folks like the military commanders at Guantanamo, folks who later even conclude his clients should not be there and should be released. So, the Bush administration has released 3/4 of the people that were there after concluding that they weren’t, in fact, a danger. Military commanders on a case-by-case basis seem to be acknowledging correctly when innocent folks have been found to be innocent. How exactly is it that there’s no due process for these folks? It doesn’t make sense to me. There seem to be plenty of room for refining the process, but what’s Mr. Colman’s alternative? Do we treat terrorist the same way we do serial killers in the U.S.? Make a system so unbalanced in the favor of criminals that it becomes impossible to get those that are terrorists and let them continue killing scores of people? How exactly are U.S. troops supposed to gather “evidence” in a battlefield setting for suspected terrorists? Pakistan and Afghanistan were battlefields, not playgrounds.

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